Within a week you'll see this in Arabic as a real story

[Johannes]

One more suicide bombing and the Israelis give up... (http://www.theonion.com/content/node/48976&rss=1)

I get the feeling this will be like the story about Congress moving to another state for a better hall of Congress that was passed off as real in China. If nothing else, these quotes will be used as propaganda. This will further prove that terrorists have no sense of humour of any kind.

[Wyrmlord]

Well, I for one would not like to live in a violent society. I can understand why the man feels as such. If this is the price one has to pay for upholding the state of Israel, then maybe it would be better to not have the state at all.

But perhaps he only encourages the terrorists.

[kyleh]

That's not a real story, Wyrmlord. That's Johannes' point.

[Johannes]

Thanks Kyleh. av_smile.gif

Wyrmlord, Israel isn't a violent society. Across the street from me is an elementary school. Do you know who the crossing guards are? Kids from the school. Despite the extraordinarily violent societies surround Israel it's generally a pretty peaceful place. Israel also fulfills a very important function in terms of keeping regional peace. What you may not realize is that most of the Arabs don't like most of the Arabs very much at all (and none of them like the Persians, a feeling that they gladly return with interest). If Israel were to be destroyed the results would be catastrophic as warfare would sweep the Middle East to levels not seen in centuries.

[Alaric]

I'm with Johannes 100%.

[kinein]

Agreed with Johannes 100%

[Braznor]

Originally posted by Johannes:
One more suicide bombing and the Israelis give up... (http://www.theonion.com/content/node/48976&rss=1)

I get the feeling this will be like the story about Congress moving to another state for a better hall of Congress that was passed off as real in China. If nothing else, these quotes will be used as propaganda. This will further prove that terrorists have no sense of humour of any kind. What sense of humor can we expect from barbarians brainwashed with the Koran? I have no doubt that they are going to use this article as propoganda to persuade even more muslims to become 'martyrs' in the name of Islam's final victory over all infidels.

[Autocratic]

Originally posted by Johannes:
Thanks Kyleh. av_smile.gif

Wyrmlord, Israel isn't a violent society. Across the street from me is an elementary school. Do you know who the crossing guards are? Kids from the school. Despite the extraordinarily violent societies surround Israel it's generally a pretty peaceful place. Israel also fulfills a very important function in terms of keeping regional peace. What you may not realize is that most of the Arabs don't like most of the Arabs very much at all (and none of them like the Persians, a feeling that they gladly return with interest). If Israel were to be destroyed the results would be catastrophic as warfare would sweep the Middle East to levels not seen in centuries. If Arabs and Persians all agree on one thing, it's not liking Israel. If Israel were to be destroyed, there would probably be a period of peace, followed by slightly escalated tensions not even close to the Israeli/Arab tension that exists right now. I doubt a gigantic war would break out, that's just wishful thinking.

[Autocratic]

Originally posted by Braznor:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Johannes:
One more suicide bombing and the Israelis give up... (http://www.theonion.com/content/node/48976&rss=1)

I get the feeling this will be like the story about Congress moving to another state for a better hall of Congress that was passed off as real in China. If nothing else, these quotes will be used as propaganda. This will further prove that terrorists have no sense of humour of any kind. What sense of humor can we expect from barbarians brainwashed with the Koran? I have no doubt that they are going to use this article as propoganda to persuade even more muslims to become 'martyrs' in the name of Islam's final victory over all infidels. </font>[/QUOTE]I will bet you everything I have that this will not be used as propaganda. It's amazing the nonsense that strong political convictions will get people to say.

[Banquo]

The best way to solve most of the problems in the Middle East would be for the U.S. to stop propping up Israel with billions in free money and military support.Without U.S. support the apartheid state of Israel would collapse like a house of cards and return to it`s rightful owners, the Palestinians, from whom it was stolen in 1949.All of the Arab animosity towards the U.S. and the West in general stems from this one outrageous act.

[Tutin]

That is so true ! Macedonia should also be given back to Bulgaria too where it belonged before WWII ! That is an insight ! In fact half Yuogaslavia and parts of Greece should as well be returned to it's rightful owner Bulgaria.

It's also a very good a idea the americas be returned to their rightful owners before the western invasion. But it aint hapenning.

I would much rather see a "nation" full of hatred and agression like the palestinians disappear than Israel, who don't produce terrorists like a bread machine, have proven over the years to be highly intelligent people and we owe them a great deal of our world progress. What has Palestine done for the good of the world and the progress ? Only thing Palestine has done is give me the creeps and a few laughs watching insane people bash their own heads with stones or blades till they pass out in some early middle age-like cult.

[Johannes]

Auto, too bad I don't gamble or I'd have everything you own right now. Yesterday the Al-Quds daily referred to an "American news source's confidential interview" in which Olmert admitted that the "noble resistance of the warriors is crushing the Zionist's spirit." From my interactions with Arabs and Iranians, the only thing they agree about is hating Jews. Otherwise they're more than happy to kill one another, all the more so since the majority of Arabs are Sunni and regard Shi'a as being on a similar level to feces albeit slightly lower.

Banquo, I'll just assume you're ignorant rather than hateful. But if you want to stop supporting Israel you're going to have to throw out your computer, cell phone and give back a few vaccinations. You should also study some history so you don't make such foolish and ignorant statements in the future. There has never been a national entity called "Palestine" nor were there any Arabs called "Palestinians" until 1964. In point of fact, the UN partition vote was 1947 and the Arab war of annihilation was launched shortly thereafter. If the "Palestinians" wanted a state they could have had one peacefully in 1947. If they want a state now all they have to do is abandon their strategy of violence, terrorism and hatred.

[Autocratic]

Auto, too bad I don't gamble or I'd have everything you own right now. Yesterday the Al-Quds daily referred to an "American news source's confidential interview" in which Olmert admitted that the "noble resistance of the warriors is crushing the Zionist's spirit."And they were referring to the Onion piece?

[Johannes]

Originally posted by Autocratic:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr /> Auto, too bad I don't gamble or I'd have everything you own right now. Yesterday the Al-Quds daily referred to an "American news source's confidential interview" in which Olmert admitted that the "noble resistance of the warriors is crushing the Zionist's spirit."And they were referring to the Onion piece? </font>[/QUOTE]Couldn't have been anything other than that Auto. No such "interview" exists in any other source.

[Autocratic]

Originally posted by Johannes:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Autocratic:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr /> Auto, too bad I don't gamble or I'd have everything you own right now. Yesterday the Al-Quds daily referred to an "American news source's confidential interview" in which Olmert admitted that the "noble resistance of the warriors is crushing the Zionist's spirit."And they were referring to the Onion piece? </font>[/QUOTE]Couldn't have been anything other than that Auto. No such "interview" exists in any other source. </font>[/QUOTE]That's pretty speculative, to say the very least.

[Johannes]

Originally posted by Autocratic:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Johannes:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Autocratic:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr /> Auto, too bad I don't gamble or I'd have everything you own right now. Yesterday the Al-Quds daily referred to an "American news source's confidential interview" in which Olmert admitted that the "noble resistance of the warriors is crushing the Zionist's spirit."And they were referring to the Onion piece? </font>[/QUOTE]Couldn't have been anything other than that Auto. No such "interview" exists in any other source. </font>[/QUOTE]That's pretty speculative, to say the very least. </font>[/QUOTE]No, it's a highly educated guess based on specialized knowledge. You have two choices here, and both are equally likely.

1 - it is based on the The Onion.
2 - It is wholly made up.

Either way, I have no investment here. However, I would lean more towards the latter. I may know more within 48 hours.

[Autocratic]

Or it's based on a small, out of context comment in some other article. I'd leave the chance of it being the Onion article at somewhere between 0 and 0.2%

[Wyrmlord]

Originally posted by Johannes:
Thanks Kyleh. av_smile.gif

Wyrmlord, Israel isn't a violent society. Across the street from me is an elementary school. Do you know who the crossing guards are? Kids from the school. Despite the extraordinarily violent societies surround Israel it's generally a pretty peaceful place. Israel also fulfills a very important function in terms of keeping regional peace. What you may not realize is that most of the Arabs don't like most of the Arabs very much at all (and none of them like the Persians, a feeling that they gladly return with interest). If Israel were to be destroyed the results would be catastrophic as warfare would sweep the Middle East to levels not seen in centuries. Johannes, you very well know that Persian is not the same as Arab. Why are you labelling the Persians as Arabs? Were you trying to say that some Muslim nations have some some hostility towards each other?

[Tutin]

i'm not an expert on arab matters, but it is a known fact that arabs don't exactly like arabs of other nations. In fact i've heard this more than once that there's only one thing arabs hate more than america, and that's other arabs. (those are not my thoughts, just passing what've heard on multiple occasions)

[Autocratic]

Originally posted by Wyrmlord:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />Originally posted by Johannes:
Thanks Kyleh. av_smile.gif

Wyrmlord, Israel isn't a violent society. Across the street from me is an elementary school. Do you know who the crossing guards are? Kids from the school. Despite the extraordinarily violent societies surround Israel it's generally a pretty peaceful place. Israel also fulfills a very important function in terms of keeping regional peace. What you may not realize is that most of the Arabs don't like most of the Arabs very much at all (and none of them like the Persians, a feeling that they gladly return with interest). If Israel were to be destroyed the results would be catastrophic as warfare would sweep the Middle East to levels not seen in centuries. Johannes, you very well know that Persian is not the same as Arab. Why are you labelling the Persians as Arabs? Were you trying to say that some Muslim nations have some some hostility towards each other? </font>[/QUOTE]I don't think he was labeling Persians as Arabs at all.

[Johannes]

Originally posted by Autocratic:
Or it's based on a small, out of context comment in some other article. I'd leave the chance of it being the Onion article at somewhere between 0 and 0.2% I wouldn't put any money on your skill at laying odds. av_smile.gif I'd put it at even money either way for the two options I laid out.

Wyrmlord, what are you talking about? I am in no way conflating Persians and Arabs if for no other reason than my Persian and Arab friends would never speak to me again if I did such a thing. The plain text of my statement makes the distinction clear.

[Autocratic]

Hey! I take offense to criticism of my odds-laying skills. I'm a gambler, sir, it's what I do. And of course, I sometimes will alter the odds to make a point - I still don't think it's close to 50/50.

[Johannes]

Originally posted by Autocratic:
Hey! I take offense to criticism of my odds-laying skills. I'm a gambler, sir, it's what I do. And of course, I sometimes will alter the odds to make a point - I still don't think it's close to 50/50. Okay, and I think you're wrong. Given that you're the one reasoning in the vaccuum here, that puts you in a far weaker position. Be that as it may, I may know more shortly.

And here I thought you were a student...

[Wyrmlord]

Oh, sorry, the word 'like' is ambiguous. I get your point. BTW, I wonder how some Arabs feel about Turks. There is a history.