Justice Sandra Day O'Connor calls it quits

[Chip]

CNN (http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/07/01/resignation.supreme/index.html)

[kyleh]

The Bush White House has held secret meetings on possible replacements and senior officials have interviewed some candidates. What exactly do they mean by 'secret' meetings. If they are reporting it, it obviously wasn't much of a secret. Wouldn't it be better classified as a 'closed' meeting or one to which the press was not invited?

[anthonyX]

a 'closed' meeting or one to which the press was not invited?
If the press is not involved then it has to be a "secret".

[zauggru]

Originally posted by anthonyX:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr /> a 'closed' meeting or one to which the press was not invited?
If the press is not involved then it has to be a "secret". </font>[/QUOTE]I would consider it a blessing not to have the press there.

[MarkN]

"The nation also deserves a dignified process of confirmation in the United States Senate, characterized by fair treatment, a fair hearing and a fair vote," [Bush] said.

Yeah, right. Anyone else see the irony of this statement? The guy wouldn't know what fairness was even if it bit him in the ***.

[T.N.D.]

^^
somebody has some issues av_rolleyes.gif

[Dan_etal]

Esteemed Colleges

I have absolutely no clue who she is. I just had to comment on something else! If she's a judge and a supreme court judge, many of these people are megomaniacs. Most of the issues the court handles should be voted on by the population (some of which are educated.)
Yes TND many have issues on this site. A jaded and cynical view prevails here. Often "newbies" or interlopers are gang banged here. Most of the views here are popular consenses though and most of the population tends to change their views.
I'm sure Miss O'Connor had an ephiphany (sp) and realized Bush or someone was on her case and resigned! The casualities in Iraq now are making Kennedy finch now as well that the debt and death toll. Change of topic? Maybe her catholic background made her realize she would go visit Satan and had enough of the game!!!

Later,

Dan

[Chip]

Originally posted by Dan_etal:
Esteemed Colleges

I have absolutely no clue who she is. I just had to comment on something else! If she's a judge and a supreme court judge, many of these people are megomaniacs. Most of the issues the court handles should be voted on by the population (some of which are educated.)
Yes TND many have issues on this site. A jaded and cynical view prevails here. Often "newbies" or interlopers are gang banged here. Most of the views here are popular consenses though and most of the population tends to change their views.
I'm sure Miss O'Connor had an ephiphany (sp) and realized Bush or someone was on her case and resigned! The casualities in Iraq now are making Kennedy finch now as well that the debt and death toll. Change of topic? Maybe her catholic background made her realize she would go visit Satan and had enough of the game!!!

Later,

Dan megomaniacs? do you mean egomaniacs or megalomaniacs? Anyhoo (yes, I know that is not a real word) you havent changed much, have you?

[Steven]

Originally posted by Dan_etal:
Esteemed Colleges

I have absolutely no clue who she is. I just had to comment on something else! If she's a judge and a supreme court judge, many of these people are megomaniacs. Most of the issues the court handles should be voted on by the population (some of which are educated.)
Yes TND many have issues on this site. A jaded and cynical view prevails here. Often "newbies" or interlopers are gang banged here. Most of the views here are popular consenses though and most of the population tends to change their views.
I'm sure Miss O'Connor had an ephiphany (sp) and realized Bush or someone was on her case and resigned! The casualities in Iraq now are making Kennedy finch now as well that the debt and death toll. Change of topic? Maybe her catholic background made her realize she would go visit Satan and had enough of the game!!!

Later,

Dan Its pretty impressive that the headlines that say "Sandra is retiring" and infer to you that shes quitting because Bush is on her case. Death toll in Iraq? Its a war, what did you expect to happen? I'm always suprised to see people are amazed to hear about people dying in Iraq, Its horrible, but thats what happens when people shoot guns at each other, someone is going to hit one of these days.

Look up a site, The Truth about Iraq. We are doing very good work there, and no matter if you like it or do not like it, just remember the soldiers that are over there fighting and dying for this country have no say so in where or when they go anywhere.

Sorry, off topic and slight derail, I just hate when everyone has to turn things into a Bush basing session. I dont agree with everything the man has done, and the decisions he made, but I dont have to go to every thread and post some comment about Bush.

Blah, maybe i'm just in a bad mood. av_smile.gif

[Chip]

No, I am pretty much the same way. Sick and tired of the same small minded crap.

[Dan_etal]

O'Conner was pivotal on abortion issues and the like. The MEGLOMANIAC term was mispelled. There are too many judges going against popular views (that society isn't ready for or doesn't want to stoop too) and plebisites (major issues aren't voted on by society) aren't occuring.

Many people in the US do have a choice and DON'T have to enlist. Who would want to get killed for Bush (clearly an idiot puppet) and Rumfeld who don't give a crap about little people? I'd rather clean up garbage then harass and kill people in foreign countries while my country suffers massive debt, poverty, pollution etc. Then the said country has the gaul to say it's working and should be applied everywhere. Bin Laden and Saddam were supplied and financed by the US! There were no nukes in Iraq again second time around. Bush had a personal problem with Hussein (maybe they wanted the oil monopoly [nice gas prices now too] and destroy other power groups in the middle east.) Ninety percent of the US governments meddling in foreign policy is apparently why they are fighting elsewhere and continuing to do so. Canada and Europe don't have a real problem with terrorism. It's only through associating with the US (NATO obligations etc and blackmail) and it's NWO policy (new secular orderon the greenback) that the rest of the planet is getting dragged down. The arabs are the last major and strong religion (that has nothing to do with these terrorist groups who misinterpreted the Koran anyhow.) Read the dam thing it's very positive and good. And yes women have equal rights in there. Which is using some women against the Koran and the arabs to convert to western culture.

I'm scratching the surface. It's pointless to really go farther with people who believe propaganda from the media and the government. And can't judge for themselves. These groups that are making money off the poor, taking away their rights and striping away their future livilyhoods to bully foreign countries. Many of the said people who are playing god and watch dog duty for the rich who are hiding behind patroitism again.

Later

[Dan_etal]

Chip I've haven't changed to suit your fancy. You're probably a follower. You postuate that the mispelling of meglomaniac is a non-sensical word. But of course if one doesn't spell check then ones creditals are questionable. Classic list of character assasination 101. And lame jaded cliched cynics are just reaching for holes. I don't have to spell and really structure arguement "to look smart." Ideals rule and not just their structure. Computers spell check. Read some Chomsky or Vidal Gore to see thinking men (Americans) with tons of data, grammar and spelling to suit the critics. They're not very popular with media or political types.

[Chip]

Chill, Just giving you a hard time on the whole spelling thing. Jeez, it is not like have havent been reemed on my spelling.


Something just occured to me... is it PC to tell a Canadian to chill? graemlins/av_wacko.gif

[kyleh]

And off to heated we go, courtesy of Dan.

[calvin]

Originally posted by Dan_etal:
Chip I've haven't changed to suit your fancy. You're probably a follower. You postuate that the mispelling of meglomaniac is a non-sensical word. But of course if one doesn't spell check then ones creditals are questionable. Classic list of character assasination 101. And lame jaded cliched cynics are just reaching for holes. I don't have to spell and really structure arguement "to look smart." Ideals rule and not just their structure. Computers spell check. Read some Chomsky or Vidal Gore to see thinking men (Americans) with tons of data, grammar and spelling to suit the critics. They're not very popular with media or political types. I don't think he was attacking your character so much as asking a valid question. I didn't know which word you were going for, either.

[Dan_etal]

Hey People

I'm amazed at the coolness on the site this time around.?. A meglomanic is an individual that takes it upon himself/herself to decide on issues without knowing all the facts and/or not having the power to dish out appropriate retribution to the crime/sin commited. Games like Civilization or other rts games are considered god games for example. Like chess...

Ha ha Kyleh back to the flame section! I'll tone it down.

In with a bang and a cool calm familurality prevails... Great for now!

Dan

[Steven]

Originally posted by Dan_etal:
[QB]
Many people in the US do have a choice and DON'T have to enlist. Who would want to get killed for Bush
How many people do you know that would like to be killed for ANYONE?

United States soldiers do not enlist in the Forces to "Die for anyone" or to go fight a war for that matter. Many enlist because they can find no other jobs, some to pay for school, others because they are proud of thier country and would like to give something back, perhaps they have family that were military.. To say things like "Go die for Bush" just shows a narrow minded view.. The concept of Everyone's rights, not just the rich, Freedom, freedom of religon, etc are all things that many Americans take great pride... Many have family of generations past that have died to give us these rights, and enlisting in a 4-8 year period of your life where you give things back, offer respect to your country, all the while getting trained in skills you would NEVER find in the public is not a bad way to spend a few years.


(clearly an idiot puppet) and Rumfeld who don't give a crap about little people? I'd rather clean up garbage then harass and kill people in foreign countries while my country suffers massive debt, poverty, pollution etc. Then the said country has the gaul to say it's working and should be applied everywhere. Bin Laden and Saddam were supplied and financed by the US! There were no nukes in Iraq again second time around. Bush had a personal problem with Hussein (maybe they wanted the oil monopoly [nice gas prices now too] and destroy other power groups in the middle east.)Lets see, I dont even know where to begin.

You enjoy your life taking out the garbage, while many in the US are getting training to better themselves, and help thousands of people around the globe.. Do you believe the US military only fights wars? They do much more than just that...

About the not having nukes, Bush is probably the most powerful man in the world, he has got more resources to tell him that there is a problem with IRAQ than you will ever see.. His sources told him things that you were not privy to, and he acted on it. It must be very easy to sit on the sidelines and say what should have been done, I bet you get paid well for sitting on the sidelines telling people all the decisions they should have made.

I could tear this up more, and point out where you are incorrect, but whats the point? it will not change your view on things, and it damned sure will not change mine. From everyone elses responses here, you seem like some joke that comes around to stir the pot every few months and dissapears, so I will try not to feed a troll too much...

I am very proud of our soldiers and the Country I live in, Hard to explain it to someone from Canada.

You complain that people only listen to propoganda and the media to get their views, let me ask you, when was the last time you were in Iraq, I'm sure you have first hand knowledge, and are not just regurgating info you heard from someone else, right?

Not that I have anything against anyone from Canada, But it always seems like 99% of the Anti-American views come from there on boards like these.

[Alaric]

Dan_etal from Canadia rocks!

He sure does! Otherwise how was he able to come here, make a long incoherent statement that had nothing to do with the topic and yet have all of you take him seriously? Uh-huh!

Sheesh...

[Alaric]

By the way,

Main Entry: meg•a•lo•ma•nia
Pronunciation: "meg-&-lO-'mA-nE-&, -ny&
Function: noun
: a delusional mental disorder that is marked by infantile feelings of personal omnipotence and grandeur

(Source: Merriam-Webster's Medical Dictionary)

So, could someone please honor me with an explanation of how the above is the same as this:


A meglomanic is an individual that takes it upon himself/herself to decide on issues without knowing all the facts and/or not having the power to dish out appropriate retribution to the crime/sin commited.

[enfestid]

Originally posted by Michael.Teplitsky:
By the way,

Main Entry: meg•a•lo•ma•nia
Pronunciation: "meg-&-lO-'mA-nE-&, -ny&
Function: noun
: a delusional mental disorder that is marked by infantile feelings of personal omnipotence and grandeur

(Source: Merriam-Webster's Medical Dictionary)

So, could someone please honor me with an explanation of how the above is the same as this:

</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr />
A meglomanic is an individual that takes it upon himself/herself to decide on issues without knowing all the facts and/or not having the power to dish out appropriate retribution to the crime/sin commited.</font>[/QUOTE]haha, I was wondering the same thing

[Dan_etal]

Dear Steve

First off I don't come around to bash or flame stuff. I tend to get dragged into these topics because of the misinformation and having to read the same shallow cliched conformist media/military/ZOG/NWO/idealistic crap that's messing around the planet and wondering why everybody is sick of it. I'm getting tired of trying to explain what is really going on with many people who are blind patriots that can't analyze what's really going on. People that question the governemnt are dismissed as "conspiracy theorists", "the fringe" or "liberals" and the like. Funny though racial profiling is now occuring and overseas thuggery is permitted. And the staus quo lives on. The pressure down there must be really high to conform. Opponents and critics are really really marginalized. The first casualty of warfare is trueth I guess for sure. Keep working for a world government that doesn't care about the average foot soldier. I realize many people enlist because there is little else to do. And this is what the military preys on. They try to make it very attractive to young guys many of whom die overseas in countries they didn't know existed. Many of these enemies again were financed and supplied by the US to fight the Russians or drugs etc. The military is an industry. It's making money on expensive gagets that kill people. Money that could be better spent directly on schools, healthcare, the environment, the poor etc. These bad guys are demonized and are often artifical enemies to keep some occupied and the money flowing.
I can give back to my country by helping people in nursing homes, getting a degree in science to combat some disease, or getting active politically rather then marching off to war. The Canadian government wastes billions of dollars. Most of our taxes go to our debt. People are dying waiting in hospitals. Our educational system has been downloaded more and more to the people. If anything its become more US like. Healthcare for the rich and the whole NAFTA plan. I can criticise my leader who doesn't keep his money in Canada because the taxes are too high. Martin farther is a big business Bush ***-kisser. And his second re-election (Martin) was suspicious with his "sponsorhip scandal". Most people bindly follow the media and their "leaders." It's the melting pot mentality. The first Bush vote was fishy and the second re-election was because of the conservative religious groups in the south.
America farther can't sustain it's trillion dollar combined deficit never mind the lives lost in the many idealistic and unfinished battles around the planet. Another disaster be it natural or the man-made will bankrupt the US. Everyone's still paying for 911. If California has a big quake who will pay? I think the powers that be are gearing up for China and India at this point anyhow. More and more domestic companies are being bought and are being run by foreign second and third world countries. Another Rome will be decline through debt and usury and another host country will be found and exploited.
My meglomaniac definition was fairly close and I didn't look it up. Wow a dictionary definition!
I farther wouldn't be dumb enough to go to Iraq. Fix infracture that the boys demoed?!? And tap into the oil and water asap only to get it destroyed. And destroy my own weapons which I supplied years ago. With no nukes... Why is the US, China, Isreal and India allowed to have nukes? What gives the US government the right to tell sovereign countries that they can't have nukes but only the US and other can?!? Iraq isn't even formidable. They have to resort to gorilla and street-based warfare to demoralize soldiers. How would you like it if you were occupied by Iraq's?
And on Bush's info. The Mossad had more info about 911 then Bush's administration did. Or what they choose to react to. Now everyone must have their rectums checked because of a more and more apparent inside job to wrattle the population. Get the laws changed to tap the phones, the internet and arrest people without real info. Gantanimo (sp) reeks like a golag. Sounds like communism again. The patriot act in it's second iteration wasn't even read by most of the senators. Did anyone read or hear that a crew had setup explosives days before to bring the towers down vertically in a controlled blast after the planes hit. And wasn't there and attempt on the towers before? The pentagon blast wasn't from a plane either. And it was quickly cleaned up too. The same people that shot Kenedy (against the federal reserve), settled Waco (printing his own money again), Oklahoma and Ruby Ridge are doctoring the facts to make Americans paranoid create a new enemy and to disarm them.
Finally I don't speak for all Canadians. There are alot of people that blindly wave the flags and march for big business and the power hungry here. And don't read between the lines and can't see what's really happening or admits past flaws... Oh and I'm suspicious of government misinformation/propaganda and not the average Joe in the States that doesn't have time, nor the means in the media or social openess to freely think for himself. I talk with Americans all the time in my job. I get along peachy with them. I guess I scarred or upset many here cutting to the chase.

Peace out,

Dan

[Dan_etal]

Mike

And if you read, I admit going off topic. Doh you THINK I'm on topic? Do you keep living in Jane's, Fox's and the White House's lullaby and discrediting differing views?
There must be some that really want to ignore this issue or why all the debate?
All the critics have to do is again is read some Chomsky or Vidal to get more thorough. I guess many can't debate points and have to resort to immediate attacks. And many that dismiss thes eduacted men that saw the light.
Many people can't and don't want to believe their government is wrong and has been terrorizing other countries. It's just American imperialism.
Mike you should run for office. I'm sure you'll make lots of money and have a posse defending and following you at your every whim...

[Steven]

Originally posted by Dan_etal:
I'm getting tired of trying to explain what is really going on with many people who are blind patriots that can't analyze what's really going on.Wow, I guess I'm lucky... I made it 31 years without knowing you were here to explain to me everything I need to know, boy my life sure will be easier now.

Are you truly this conceited?

Anyway, Its not worth the effort to keep arguing with you. To you, I'm sure you will chalk it up to another flame war won, and move on. You and people like you are the reason that I never look at heated area's of discussion boards, you have an incredibly small view of the world, and are convinced you are correct and want to push your views on everyone around you. Hell, just the quoted section above prety much sums up your entire character.

Just please do me a favor and keep your America bashing here in heated so I dont have to read it.

You wanna do something to help Canada contribute? Bring back hockey! I miss it!

[Chip]

Chomsky or Vidal Jeez, and you think that Conservatives are lemmings! Following these 2 fruits. Hate filled waste of total space, those 2 are. For all the intellience they think they have and that others attribute to them, they are pretty stupid and lousy human being.

[Steven]

Originally posted by Chip:
</font><blockquote>quote:</font><hr /> Chomsky or Vidal Jeez, and you think that Conservatives are lemmings! Following these 2 fruits. Hate filled waste of total space, those 2 are. For all the intellience they think they have and that others attribute to them, they are pretty stupid and lousy human being. </font>[/QUOTE]Watch it Chip, or he wont tell us what we need to know anymore!

O'sad day, indeed!

Now, where are my car keys?

[Chip]

Well here is a thought...

Chomsky or Vidal are rapist and pedophile, metaphoricly speaking, buy raping the freewill and thought from our children.
All I can say is I am glad both are close to the grave so when they are burried I can find out were and **** on their grave.

[Alaric]

Wow, that was a long post. And I also got a little post at the end of it, addressed to me personally.

What we have here, children, is a classic example of a person who takes to the forums to vent his frustrations. Our friend Danny, is mighty ****ed at the US. Why, he just hates it with a passion. Of course we will never know the real reasons, but he does a pretty good job justifying his grudges with other people’s words. Note, gentlemen, not a single original idea, how pathetic. Instead he throws together every anti-US sentiment he had ever heard of and presents us with a large, unreadable and incoherent salad of thought.

He apparently sees the light unlike everyone else.. The view must be better from where he is.

The way I see it, Danny-boy should quit his preaching (since he is doing such a lousy job) and get a job as a painter or something. People tend to follow painters who give speeches. ;) That, or pursue an education. Either way, he has got to stop stealing other people’s ideas and make an attempt to think for himself.

[T.N.D.]

First off I don't come around to bash or flame stuff. I tend to get dragged into these topics because of the misinformation and having to read the same shallow cliched conformist media/military/ZOG/NWO/idealistic crap that's messing around the planet and wondering why everybody is sick of it. I'm getting tired of trying to explain what is really going on with many people who are blind patriots that can't analyze what's really going on. People that question the governemnt are dismissed as "conspiracy theorists", "the fringe" or "liberals" and the like. Funny though racial profiling is now occuring and overseas thuggery is permitted. And the staus quo lives on. The pressure down there must be really high to conform. Opponents and critics are really really marginalized. The first casualty of warfare is trueth I guess for sure. Keep working for a world government that doesn't care about the average foot soldier. I realize many people enlist because there is little else to do. And this is what the military preys on. They try to make it very attractive to young guys many of whom die overseas in countries they didn't know existed. Many of these enemies again were financed and supplied by the US to fight the Russians or drugs etc. The military is an industry. It's making money on expensive gagets that kill people. Money that could be better spent directly on schools, healthcare, the environment, the poor etc. These bad guys are demonized and are often artifical enemies to keep some occupied and the money flowing.
I can give back to my country by helping people in nursing homes, getting a degree in science to combat some disease, or getting active politically rather then marching off to war. The Canadian government wastes billions of dollars. Most of our taxes go to our debt. People are dying waiting in hospitals. Our educational system has been downloaded more and more to the people. If anything its become more US like. Healthcare for the rich and the whole NAFTA plan. I can criticise my leader who doesn't keep his money in Canada because the taxes are too high. Martin farther is a big business Bush ***-kisser. And his second re-election (Martin) was suspicious with his "sponsorhip scandal". Most people bindly follow the media and their "leaders." It's the melting pot mentality. The first Bush vote was fishy and the second re-election was because of the conservative religious groups in the south.
America farther can't sustain it's trillion dollar combined deficit never mind the lives lost in the many idealistic and unfinished battles around the planet. Another disaster be it natural or the man-made will bankrupt the US. Everyone's still paying for 911. If California has a big quake who will pay? I think the powers that be are gearing up for China and India at this point anyhow. More and more domestic companies are being bought and are being run by foreign second and third world countries. Another Rome will be decline through debt and usury and another host country will be found and exploited.
My meglomaniac definition was fairly close and I didn't look it up. Wow a dictionary definition!
I farther wouldn't be dumb enough to go to Iraq. Fix infracture that the boys demoed?!? And tap into the oil and water asap only to get it destroyed. And destroy my own weapons which I supplied years ago. With no nukes... Why is the US, China, Isreal and India allowed to have nukes? What gives the US government the right to tell sovereign countries that they can't have nukes but only the US and other can?!? Iraq isn't even formidable. They have to resort to gorilla and street-based warfare to demoralize soldiers. How would you like it if you were occupied by Iraq's?
And on Bush's info. The Mossad had more info about 911 then Bush's administration did. Or what they choose to react to. Now everyone must have their rectums checked because of a more and more apparent inside job to wrattle the population. Get the laws changed to tap the phones, the internet and arrest people without real info. Gantanimo (sp) reeks like a golag. Sounds like communism again. The patriot act in it's second iteration wasn't even read by most of the senators. Did anyone read or hear that a crew had setup explosives days before to bring the towers down vertically in a controlled blast after the planes hit. And wasn't there and attempt on the towers before? The pentagon blast wasn't from a plane either. And it was quickly cleaned up too. The same people that shot Kenedy (against the federal reserve), settled Waco (printing his own money again), Oklahoma and Ruby Ridge are doctoring the facts to make Americans paranoid create a new enemy and to disarm them.
Finally I don't speak for all Canadians. There are alot of people that blindly wave the flags and march for big business and the power hungry here. And don't read between the lines and can't see what's really happening or admits past flaws... Oh and I'm suspicious of government misinformation/propaganda and not the average Joe in the States that doesn't have time, nor the means in the media or social openess to freely think for himself. I talk with Americans all the time in my job. I get along peachy with them. I guess I scarred or upset many here cutting to the chase.You forgot to put this at the end...................The sky is falling, the sky is falling!!!!!!!

[Angus McFeargus]

Originally posted by Michael.Teplitsky:
...presents us with a large, unreadable and incoherent salad of thought.

graemlins/av_cheesygrin.gif

[Dan_etal]

I never claimed to have come up with all the ideas presented. Where did I say I did? And who is really saying what they really want here and not what the posse or the party or big brother wants?
Chip you're so funny. I really believe you too on the Chomsky and Vidal thing. I'm sure you WON'T get a purple heart for you tenacity. And no I’m not conservative. And who won the last US presidential election over there? I like independents and small parties actually. Not the mainstream flip-flop back and forth bs…
Again for Mike. I clearly stated that I don't represent most Canadians. And I don't hate Americans. I’m talking about the politician’s and people that aggressively believe what the politicians are doing is right. Well either Bush and Rumsfeld or Chaney aren’t gods. They make bad choices like everyone else. And they will answer to a higher power for what they did to hard working Americans and other with all the misinformation that they told and picking fights with whomever and not fighting in the battlefield themselves. Again, I have a great working relationship with all Americans that I deal with in my job. They actually are impressed with what I say and agree with alot of it. And they are usually really polite. You must be really skilled and knowledgeable editing this site. And you don't know my education level. And it wouldn't even matter because there are plenty of knobs blindly following and flaming people that don't agree even if they are educated. Funny you're still going on about credibility. Are you insecure? If you read my posts you'll see I don't like what the GOVERNMENT is doing, the lobbyists, big business and not the average American. If there is true freedom of speech on this site maybe, there would be more tolerance to differing views. If anything as crazy as it maybe to some on this forum, true patriots challenge bad political decisions (why do Americans have the right to bare arms [against bad governance maybe?]) Leadership that is costing needless lives, effecting international views and creating massive debt is okay?
A guy from Illinois told me today how hard it is to have different views down there. It's sad that in a free country you find politicans and many uttering statements like "Axis of Evil" and "with us or against us!" Most of the planet is against the US GOVERNMENT'S FOREIGN POLICY. A policy which has destroyed and alienated many countries throughout the world. And who will be the real odd balls and the misinformed when all is said and done?